tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post8455838742738045133..comments2023-11-01T18:25:49.063+01:00Comments on VMware Front Experience: The great VMware Tools dilemmaAndreas Peetzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12918778845056237847noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-91532811659421842522017-05-19T14:56:01.941+02:002017-05-19T14:56:01.941+02:00Thank you for your comment! As of today VMware doe...Thank you for your comment! As of today VMware does not seem to have made progress on this topic. This is somewhat disappointing.<br /><br />If you are a VMware customer I can only recommend to reach out to them through every possible channel and ask them to improve the situation.Andreas Peetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12918778845056237847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-32050470447505152522017-05-19T05:25:12.204+02:002017-05-19T05:25:12.204+02:00Andreas, you're a genius!! I totally agree wi...Andreas, you're a genius!! I totally agree with you. This makes so much sense. Why install a new version of VM Ware tools unless the features help you out and normally when we update the VM ware tools, it introduces other problems. I wish VM Ware would get this right!! I agree with Marco, you should be working for VM Ware!! So many times, we do it because that's the way it's been and etc., and I have thought about this myself to but you hit the jackpot!! We need to tell VM Ware, to create a central repository just like Linux boxes access a central repository and to only update VM Ware tools if the features will help!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-59510813256644218672016-05-06T10:25:25.298+02:002016-05-06T10:25:25.298+02:00I totally agree with you. I don't understand h...I totally agree with you. I don't understand how is possible that Vmware didn't think the same things that you said. Vmware should have some of the best engineers but, in my opinion, lately they are doing many crap<br />Would we speak about web client? Yes now they are moving in the right direction (html5) but I'm amazed that Vmware didn't do it since the beginning.<br />But the vmware tools question is really incredible<br /><br />I think you should be hired by Vmware :)<br />marcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07459934612726207680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-56706428042875139072015-11-13T11:34:25.979+01:002015-11-13T11:34:25.979+01:00Ok you have a point.
And there is little breakage ...Ok you have a point.<br />And there is little breakage with RHEL6, Tools v10 under ESXi 5.5u3a, too. :(<br />The tools are reported as "3rd party / independent".<br />Despite this:<br /># cat /etc/vmware-tools/tools.conf<br />[vmtools]<br />disable-tools-version=false<br /><br />To make things worse RHEL7.2 GA will most probably ship with broken open-vm-tools:<br />https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1155913<br /><br />The guy from vmware promised to look after the issue dec 2014 but failed to show up again.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09937577584430325450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-59006804393290098022015-11-11T16:52:47.650+01:002015-11-11T16:52:47.650+01:00No problem if you run Linux with open-vm-tools fro...No problem if you run Linux with open-vm-tools from a vendor repository (for Linux this is even recommended by VMware now).<br /><br />But in all other cases, especially Windows VMs all points above apply.<br />Andreas Peetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12918778845056237847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-57486730980647824932015-11-11T16:21:43.415+01:002015-11-11T16:21:43.415+01:00Regarding RHEL6:
I've been syncing lastest too...Regarding RHEL6:<br />I've been syncing lastest tools to my local yum repository and a simple "yum update" is all it takes. Where's the problem?<br />RHEL7:<br />comes with open-vm-tools. So again where's the problem?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09937577584430325450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-80992810160258625252015-10-30T13:45:42.062+01:002015-10-30T13:45:42.062+01:00I've found customisation specifications didn&#...I've found customisation specifications didn't get applied with v10 installed on the template. No attempt at running (no c:\windows\temp\vmware-imc folder). I've had to roll my templates back to tools v9.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-18881143042606477522015-10-23T15:36:46.160+02:002015-10-23T15:36:46.160+02:00I spent hours yesterday trying to understand why m...I spent hours yesterday trying to understand why my new VMs, created using a vCenter VM template with VMware tools v10.0.0 installed would keep power cycling and starting the customization screen again and again.<br /><br />As soon as I created a template using a previous version which is embedded on the host, new VMs using that Template worked fine.<br /><br />Now it seems obvious that the problem was the host didn't have the up to date VMware tools on it but at the time it was frustrating.<br /><br /><br />NaysanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-25369181979707594302015-10-15T19:24:22.117+02:002015-10-15T19:24:22.117+02:00Regarding open-vm-tools - If you have an environme...Regarding open-vm-tools - If you have an environment with multiple versions/releases of Linux (ie RHEL 6, RHEL 7), and you want to eventually move to open-vm-tools, then you're stuck managing VMware tools in at least two different ways in the meantime. Open-vm-tools for the newer Linux VMs, and OSP or ISO version on the older Linux VMs. Since it appears that open-vm-tools is only supported (and comes by default) on newer versions (ie 7 and higher). Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05756011774857090976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-73214291233148902032015-10-12T12:24:00.341+02:002015-10-12T12:24:00.341+02:00Regarding the advantages or differences for the Li...Regarding the advantages or differences for the Linux VMware Tools (host locals, open-vm-tools, OSPs) you might want to check out Brian's blog post and the mentioned KB article: https://blogs.vmware.com/vsphere/2015/09/open-vm-tools-ovt-the-future-of-vmware-tools-for-linux.html<br />It's still work in progress here too and mostly a pain in the ass. Time to streamline, VMware! <br />SteffenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-27291641251736593442015-10-06T15:29:51.443+02:002015-10-06T15:29:51.443+02:00Well, I have no idea. Anyway, in one of their blog...Well, I have no idea. Anyway, in one of their blog posts that I referenced VMware says that "open-vm-tools are the future", so you are doing the right thing!Andreas Peetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12918778845056237847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-25752543075699576532015-10-06T11:31:44.382+02:002015-10-06T11:31:44.382+02:00I'm with @Tim here - I have removed the VMWare...I'm with @Tim here - I have removed the VMWare tools ffrom all my RHEL VMs and installed open-vm-tools instead.<br />Makes updates easier as they are managed with all the other RHEL updates via yum package manager.<br /><br />What advantages do VMware tools have over open-vm-tools?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-49116367825771726112015-10-05T15:19:49.930+02:002015-10-05T15:19:49.930+02:00Aha! Please disregard previous question...it's...Aha! Please disregard previous question...it's in the release notes!<br /><br />Compatibility<br /><br />VMware Tools 10.0.0 is compatible with supported versions of VMware vSphere ESXi 5.0 and later, VMware Workstation 12.0 and VMware Fusion 8.0. See VMware Compatibility Guide for more information.Alexhttps://twitter.com/CoquiPR81noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-85214467279352398192015-10-05T15:17:23.662+02:002015-10-05T15:17:23.662+02:00Thanks Alex. Yes, the version 10.0 can also be ins...Thanks Alex. Yes, the version 10.0 can also be installed on the desktop hypervisor products! I haven't touched those in my post to not open another can of worms :-)Andreas Peetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12918778845056237847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-44283212325515269092015-10-05T15:11:27.845+02:002015-10-05T15:11:27.845+02:00Another great post and a fine read Andreas! I ass...Another great post and a fine read Andreas! I assume that these new VMware Tools can be installed on VMs created/running on Workstation 12 & Fusion 8?Alexhttps://twitter.com/CoquiPR81noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059874241017858476.post-16200306764875005882015-10-05T14:27:53.387+02:002015-10-05T14:27:53.387+02:00Hi Andreas,
I agree, VMware Tools are a mess.
Esp...Hi Andreas,<br /><br />I agree, VMware Tools are a mess.<br />Especially the VM owners with vCenter server access, that are not that deep into VMware vSphere had a really hard time with all the tools status information.<br /><br />That's why I configured all the windows VMs to automaticly upgrade the tools on boot and switched to OSPs for the linux VMs. Now windows shows "current" and linux shows the strange version number, followed by "managed by guest".<br /><br />Unfortunately this is not ideal for linux either, as you have to configure the VMware repo inside the VMs to install the packages and the VMware documentation tells you not to use the tools/esx/latest directory, so that you need to specifiy the esxi-version in the repository path.<br />So, you are basicly out of date again with each new major host update.<br /><br />And since VMware recommends to use the open-vmtools for RHEL 7, etc. I've switched up to the open version wherever I could, to make it a little bit less messy.<br /><br /><br />TimTimhttps://twitter.com/TimScheppeitnoreply@blogger.com